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	<title>Comments on: Silverlight is creating a mutant designer who can code.</title>
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	<description>Where technology + design intersect</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Dent</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Dave Swersky&lt;/b&gt;: Maybe this is a starting point? 
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/bhgwad/web-design-for-developers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Dave Swersky</b>: Maybe this is a starting point?<br />
<a href="http://www.pragprog.com/titles/bhgwad/web-design-for-developers" rel="nofollow">http://www.pragprog.com/titles/bhgwad/web-design-for-developers</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the premise of this article.  Yes there are developers who attempt to try and design but is the design marketable?  Usually not.  In an organization that has a true marketing dept, most designs that come from the development side will not pass QA.  That is not a swipe at developers, its just reality.

I&#039;m a designer and I&#039;m been to a design school that taught both traditional art and digital art.  Developers don&#039;t go to that sort of school because it would be boring for them.

Its as simple as left brain/right brain thinking.  Your right brain is more visual and intuitive while your left brain is more verbal and analytical. In 15 years, I have only met one person who could really effectively do both with beautiful results that would pass the marketing muster.

Hire designers for design and developers to make it work.

The whole idea of a devsigner was brought about by execs and managers looking to save money on personnel and the result in the end was mediocrity for the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the premise of this article.  Yes there are developers who attempt to try and design but is the design marketable?  Usually not.  In an organization that has a true marketing dept, most designs that come from the development side will not pass QA.  That is not a swipe at developers, its just reality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a designer and I&#8217;m been to a design school that taught both traditional art and digital art.  Developers don&#8217;t go to that sort of school because it would be boring for them.</p>
<p>Its as simple as left brain/right brain thinking.  Your right brain is more visual and intuitive while your left brain is more verbal and analytical. In 15 years, I have only met one person who could really effectively do both with beautiful results that would pass the marketing muster.</p>
<p>Hire designers for design and developers to make it work.</p>
<p>The whole idea of a devsigner was brought about by execs and managers looking to save money on personnel and the result in the end was mediocrity for the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Wortham</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wortham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - HTML5 looks very promising and it certainly appears the need for third-party plugin&#039;s will be reduced if some key things happen.  For example, if Youtube switches to HTML5 video as their default means of playback, that&#039;ll be huge.  The adoption rate of Flash may decline significantly.

Of course HTML5 isn&#039;t quite fully supported in all the major browsers just yet.  And there are a couple things I&#039;m not sure about with HTML5.  Will it be possible to handle webcams / microphones?  And what about full-screen mode?  That&#039;s something that both Flash and Silverlight 4 can do, which is kind of a big deal.

Beyond that perhaps one of the most appealing aspects of Silverlight &amp; Flash is the ability to build Desktop (or out-of-browser) apps on the same technology.  In other words, you can build a Flash app and distribute basically the same app in Adobe Air for the desktop.  Or you can build a Silverlight app and run it out of browser even easier.  

Also in both Flash &amp; Silverlight there is some extremely rich functionality built into the runtime.  Often it&#039;s the kind of thing that can also be done in HTML5, but it&#039;s not built-in.  That means that you&#039;ll be building this stuff from scratch or tapping into (potentially very large) js libraries.  It&#039;s a compromise no doubt and as always I contend that your choice of tools should depend on the nature of the app you&#039;re building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; HTML5 looks very promising and it certainly appears the need for third-party plugin&#8217;s will be reduced if some key things happen.  For example, if Youtube switches to HTML5 video as their default means of playback, that&#8217;ll be huge.  The adoption rate of Flash may decline significantly.</p>
<p>Of course HTML5 isn&#8217;t quite fully supported in all the major browsers just yet.  And there are a couple things I&#8217;m not sure about with HTML5.  Will it be possible to handle webcams / microphones?  And what about full-screen mode?  That&#8217;s something that both Flash and Silverlight 4 can do, which is kind of a big deal.</p>
<p>Beyond that perhaps one of the most appealing aspects of Silverlight &amp; Flash is the ability to build Desktop (or out-of-browser) apps on the same technology.  In other words, you can build a Flash app and distribute basically the same app in Adobe Air for the desktop.  Or you can build a Silverlight app and run it out of browser even easier.  </p>
<p>Also in both Flash &amp; Silverlight there is some extremely rich functionality built into the runtime.  Often it&#8217;s the kind of thing that can also be done in HTML5, but it&#8217;s not built-in.  That means that you&#8217;ll be building this stuff from scratch or tapping into (potentially very large) js libraries.  It&#8217;s a compromise no doubt and as always I contend that your choice of tools should depend on the nature of the app you&#8217;re building.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the good browsers support HTML5 and SVG out of the box. I can achieve everything I can think of using that combination - I see no technical advantage to either Silverlight or Flash. They&#039;re both unnecessary in the emerging web world.

When I can target open standards which are clearly on the ascent, why would I commit my talent for design to a proprietary product that&#039;s encumbered by patent concerns and is completely tied to a relatively low tech platform (Windows) that&#039;s in what appears to be in gradual but inexorable decline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the good browsers support HTML5 and SVG out of the box. I can achieve everything I can think of using that combination &#8211; I see no technical advantage to either Silverlight or Flash. They&#8217;re both unnecessary in the emerging web world.</p>
<p>When I can target open standards which are clearly on the ascent, why would I commit my talent for design to a proprietary product that&#8217;s encumbered by patent concerns and is completely tied to a relatively low tech platform (Windows) that&#8217;s in what appears to be in gradual but inexorable decline?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Wortham</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wortham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverlight is my favorite new technology to work with.  I&#039;ve always enjoyed the GUI side of things in addition to the detailed programming I do every day.  

But Silverlight had nothing to do with my interest to dip my feet in both worlds, it simply gave me a new outlet.  It gives me the flexibility to focus on the design and development side of things without worrying about all the differences between browsers, operating systems, etc.  Much like Flash, it&#039;s done an excellent job of abstracting the most annoying incompatibilities away, and just does what I tell it to do and looks how I want it to look.  But unlike Flash (or Flex), making Silverlight do what I tell it to do is just plain easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverlight is my favorite new technology to work with.  I&#8217;ve always enjoyed the GUI side of things in addition to the detailed programming I do every day.  </p>
<p>But Silverlight had nothing to do with my interest to dip my feet in both worlds, it simply gave me a new outlet.  It gives me the flexibility to focus on the design and development side of things without worrying about all the differences between browsers, operating systems, etc.  Much like Flash, it&#8217;s done an excellent job of abstracting the most annoying incompatibilities away, and just does what I tell it to do and looks how I want it to look.  But unlike Flash (or Flex), making Silverlight do what I tell it to do is just plain easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Swersky</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Swersky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those developers that would love to learn design, and I see a HUGE hole in the market for a book and/or website targeted to ME and those like me.  Someone could build a whole business on content targeted to teaching developers how to design... (HINT HINT)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those developers that would love to learn design, and I see a HUGE hole in the market for a book and/or website targeted to ME and those like me.  Someone could build a whole business on content targeted to teaching developers how to design&#8230; (HINT HINT)</p>
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		<title>By: RicCastelhano</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>RicCastelhano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MossyBlog isnt that a Devigner???</description>
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		<title>By: moldor</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>moldor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MossyBlog Whats the theme on that site ? It&#039;s almost exactly what I&#039;m looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MossyBlog Whats the theme on that site ? It&#8217;s almost exactly what I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by MossyBlog: Silverlight is creating a mutant designer who can code. - http://bit.ly/5Fu8kz...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by MossyBlog: Silverlight is creating a mutant designer who can code. &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/5Fu8kz.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5Fu8kz..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: simsod</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/127/comment-page-1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>simsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MossyBlog Haha, I´ll try that :), But the question is, are the result coders who can design or designers who can code?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MossyBlog Haha, I´ll try that <img src='http://www.riagenic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , But the question is, are the result coders who can design or designers who can code?</p>
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