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	<title>Comments on: Adobe, you lose.</title>
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		<title>By: Don Burnett</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I don&#039;t think that is being addressed here is that I don&#039;t believe Adobe really cares about the iphone anymore one way or another..

Android is currently outselling the iPhone according to 3rd party sales figures and while IOS was the cute girl in the classroom, there&#039;s a transfer student who&#039;s even hotter and she is from Google.

Google is probably not a second choice with Adobe at this point.. But a first preference being new with a very smooth problem free relationship.. 

I think Apple has blinked.. Why ?? Simply because of this below..

http://gigaom.com/2010/09/09/apple-relaxes-development-demands-as-android-grows/

At some point you either use the technology and like it or you don&#039;t. Time will tell as it always does.. If we look back on this five years from now I bet this all will seem really irrelavent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I don&#8217;t think that is being addressed here is that I don&#8217;t believe Adobe really cares about the iphone anymore one way or another..</p>
<p>Android is currently outselling the iPhone according to 3rd party sales figures and while IOS was the cute girl in the classroom, there&#8217;s a transfer student who&#8217;s even hotter and she is from Google.</p>
<p>Google is probably not a second choice with Adobe at this point.. But a first preference being new with a very smooth problem free relationship.. </p>
<p>I think Apple has blinked.. Why ?? Simply because of this below..</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/2010/09/09/apple-relaxes-development-demands-as-android-grows/" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/2010/09/09/apple-relaxes-development-demands-as-android-grows/</a></p>
<p>At some point you either use the technology and like it or you don&#8217;t. Time will tell as it always does.. If we look back on this five years from now I bet this all will seem really irrelavent.</p>
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		<title>By: notboss</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>notboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four months later Apple is now accepting iOS apps built using Flash in their App store. Apple is under increasingly intense government scrutiny due in part to their capricious and counterproductive arrogance around the app store and SDK rules. Their market share in the US is plummeting. The shine is off the iPhone 4 and by no longer giving away bumpers Apple is headed for more troubled PR waters around their defective antenna design. Android&#039;s market share is exploding and Android 2.2 which supports Flash is already on about 20% of of Android phones. WP7 does not appear to have any leverage at all. In the all important enterprise market RIM is still growing while IT shops are gradually learning how to support iPhone and Android. 

Adobe still has serious problems. ActionScript performance has been eclipsed by Chrome and its not clear Adobe knows how to beat Chrome&#039;s performance the way Silverlight does. But even silverlight has monumental (though non-technical) problems. The IE 9 team are on a role and have realized what lots of other people figured out when they started using Chrome. HTML5/CSS/JavaScript/e4x/websockets/and/on/and/on may have lousy tools but with some syntactic sugar from ECMA and some solid engineering are way past &quot;good enough&quot; to enable most enterprise applications and to develop real tools on. When you need DRM, multicast, or P2P you can add a little Flash. 

I&#039;ve never been impressed by Adobe&#039;s runtime performance, but I&#039;ve never made the mistake you do of assuming the world can be analyzed using a pissing match mindset. Adobe still has lots of opportunities in front of it but I&#039;m not sure Microsoft knows how to do anything but throw money away. The marketing of Silverlight has been a complete and total disaster. Your own work on Adobe focused mailing lists simply convinced everyone that Microsoft was an infantile company to be shunned. You likely have no idea the damage that you did to Silverlight. 

Congrats on helping give Adobe more time to stay relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four months later Apple is now accepting iOS apps built using Flash in their App store. Apple is under increasingly intense government scrutiny due in part to their capricious and counterproductive arrogance around the app store and SDK rules. Their market share in the US is plummeting. The shine is off the iPhone 4 and by no longer giving away bumpers Apple is headed for more troubled PR waters around their defective antenna design. Android&#8217;s market share is exploding and Android 2.2 which supports Flash is already on about 20% of of Android phones. WP7 does not appear to have any leverage at all. In the all important enterprise market RIM is still growing while IT shops are gradually learning how to support iPhone and Android. </p>
<p>Adobe still has serious problems. ActionScript performance has been eclipsed by Chrome and its not clear Adobe knows how to beat Chrome&#8217;s performance the way Silverlight does. But even silverlight has monumental (though non-technical) problems. The IE 9 team are on a role and have realized what lots of other people figured out when they started using Chrome. HTML5/CSS/JavaScript/e4x/websockets/and/on/and/on may have lousy tools but with some syntactic sugar from ECMA and some solid engineering are way past &#8220;good enough&#8221; to enable most enterprise applications and to develop real tools on. When you need DRM, multicast, or P2P you can add a little Flash. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been impressed by Adobe&#8217;s runtime performance, but I&#8217;ve never made the mistake you do of assuming the world can be analyzed using a pissing match mindset. Adobe still has lots of opportunities in front of it but I&#8217;m not sure Microsoft knows how to do anything but throw money away. The marketing of Silverlight has been a complete and total disaster. Your own work on Adobe focused mailing lists simply convinced everyone that Microsoft was an infantile company to be shunned. You likely have no idea the damage that you did to Silverlight. </p>
<p>Congrats on helping give Adobe more time to stay relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mc</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article misses that Flex rather whips Silverlights wimpy ass. One should not comapre Silverlight to Flash. (And dont even go there with HTML 5 there are elephants a plenty in that room. As it is the HTML 5 spec an barely do what flash could do in the MX days.)

I do agree Adobe, in fact any other company in the planet is deluded if they think they could un brainwash the jobsian masses. While their technology weak their ideas ancient and executions pretty lame, there is no one on the planet who can out market apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article misses that Flex rather whips Silverlights wimpy ass. One should not comapre Silverlight to Flash. (And dont even go there with HTML 5 there are elephants a plenty in that room. As it is the HTML 5 spec an barely do what flash could do in the MX days.)</p>
<p>I do agree Adobe, in fact any other company in the planet is deluded if they think they could un brainwash the jobsian masses. While their technology weak their ideas ancient and executions pretty lame, there is no one on the planet who can out market apple.</p>
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		<title>By: custa1200</title>
		<link>http://www.riagenic.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>custa1200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 09:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MossyBlog enjoyed a few others on your site as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MossyBlog enjoyed a few others on your site as well.</p>
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		<title>By: custa1200</title>
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		<dc:creator>custa1200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 08:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MossyBlog nice article mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MossyBlog nice article mate.</p>
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		<title>By: MossyBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossyBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 23:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@custa1200 thanks.. it&#039;s just my little musing outloud :)</description>
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